Another thing that bothers me

If Obama loses to McCain in the fall, the mainstream media is going to be saying we “were not ready for a black president.” They’ll say this despite the fact that the population is pretty much split 50/50 Republican and Democrat.

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19 Responses to “Another thing that bothers me”

  1. Ash75 says:

    The MSM often tend to make this about race and gender instead of issues. I’m sure a lot of Americans like me are more than “ready” for a black or female president if they shared the same values as us. Black, white, male, or female, it’s about the issues to me (and also about charisma and character, but to a slightly lesser extent).

  2. Lincoln says:

    Frankly if that happens, who cares? As bad as McCain is, at least he’s not a racist terrorist hugger like Hussein “Osama” Obama.

  3. casey says:

    Ha, ha. Don’t get me wrong, Linc. It doesn’t bother me enough to wish for Obama to win.

  4. Kansas Bob says:

    Having spent some time in Mississippi I wonder a bit about your question. I do think that the race is all about race in places like Mississippi.I think some are already playing the name card.. why do people dislike middle nmes so much.. Sidney is a wonderful name :)

  5. casey says:

    Sorry, Bob. I missed your comment. I don’t understand what you are saying. I didn’t ask a question, so I’m not sure what you’re wondering about. Are you saying that if Obama loses it’s because Americans are racist?

  6. Kansas Bob says:

    Okay, substitute “assertation” for “question”.

    I think that I was commenting on states like Mississippi. Do you think that race does not come into play in states like Mississippi?

  7. casey says:

    No, I don’t think it comes into play. There are some people who would never vote for a black man no matter what, I’ll give you that, but that hardly describes a majority or even a plurality within the US. Especially with Obama, I’d say the majority who are not going to vote for him are more concerned about his communist mentor and terrorist friends than his race.

  8. Scott says:

    When you link to places other than WND or HA I think that will lend your links credibility and honestly I do think that race will be a much bigger issue for a lot of folks in the south than those you mentioned. I’ve lived in the south for most of my life and race is still an issue for people both black and white. Sad but true.

    Also, doesn’t the media give you wnough to worry about without worrying about what they might say? ;)

  9. casey says:

    I should link to CNN and NBC because they are such bastions of balanced and objective reporting, right? Sorry, Scott, but I think that’s a little ridiculous. Even if I wanted to, how could I when those stories don’t appear in the mainstream media which is fawning over Obama? I can show you negative stories on WND about all candidates regardless of party. The media is supposed to be a watchdog on government, not a cheerleader for the Democratic party. I’ve lived in the south for most of my life, too, by the way.

  10. Scott says:

    I didn’t say you should link to the MSM. I just don’t think you’re any better off linking to those sites, except for the fact that they seem to mesh pretty well with your politics. Personally I listen to a pretty broad spectrum of news sources form NPR to local Conservative talk radio and form Fox to well everything else on TV.

    It’s been pretty well shown that anyone who gloms on to one source or another is going to draw incorrect conclusions. Also, you’ll need to define fawning. If by that you mean not using soundbites to defame a former pastor or not showing spurious links between Obama and and “radicals” who haven’t been radical in thirty years then yeah. That’s not what fawning means, but okay.

    As I recall when we had a Democrat prez the media was just as hard on him and I expect that now that it’s just down to two we’ll see Obama get his share of licks fair and unfair. McCain has pretty well skated by too as far as the medai goes.

    As for you living in the south are you saying when you live there you didn’t see racism as a problem? Mind you I’m not just talking about overt racism but about an underlying current and not just against black people, but Mexicans and folks of Middle Eastern extraction.

  11. casey says:

    You’ve lost me, Scott. Are you talking about the two links I posted in my response to Bob, or are you talking about a general trend in my links in general? If you’re just talking about those two links, you’re not making any sense. I already stated that I was unable to find those stories in the mainstream media. It’s awfully presumptive of you to insinuate that I do not frequent mainstream media sites or watch liberal news programming. Are you really trying to lecture me on open-mindedness?

    And no, I didn’t see racism as a problem where I lived. Again, I knew people who were racist, but they were a minority.

  12. Scott says:

    I wasn’t presuming. I simply said that when you link to sites like Hot Air it doesn’t lend your post/writing credibility any more than a link to Drudge or Kos does. The bias at those sites isn’t in question. If you can’t find those stories elsewhere maybe, just maybe it means that those sites are blowing things out of proportion, using soundbites out of context or otherwise engaging in questionable jouranlistic practices.

    I made no assumption in anything I wrote concerning your browsing habits. If what I said doesn’t apply to you, cool. If you’re open minded enough to check out more liberal sites, great. We both agree that the MSM has a bias I think. Most blogsites do too.

    If you didn’t see racism, GREAT! Doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist. In my lifetime of experience in various parts of the south I’d say that it does exist, just in a more subtle way.

  13. Casey says:

    The links are simply pointing out that Obama has a communist mentor and a close friend who was involved in a domestic terrorist organization. Those things are either true or they’re not. How can they be blown out of proportion? Scott, come on. Are you really that blinded by the glory of Obama that you can’t admit that he’s got a questionable past?

    If you weren’t making any assumptions about me, then why make a comment like “Personally I listen to a pretty broad spectrum of news sources form NPR to local Conservative talk radio and form Fox to well everything else on TV.” Were you just tooting your own horn?

    No, I didn’t see any widespread racism in the south. That’s my experience, and since I haven’t done any scientific surveys, that’s all I can speak about. I never said that racism doesn’t exist. In fact, I specifically stated that it does. I’m just saying that if Obama doesn’t win, it’s not because America is racist.

  14. Howard says:

    When is the Republican base going to wake up and put some real support behind John McCain? Sitting back while Obama gains ground is like fiddling while Rome burns. Surely Republicans and corporate America prospered during the last 8 years. Now is the time to allocate some of those resources to help McCain beat Obama. I know some Republicans don’t like McCain, but would you rather see Obama get elected? Republicans … Don’t bite off your nose to spite your face!
    Support John McCain NOW!

  15. casey says:

    Well, Howard, because some of us aren’t too thrilled about voting for the lesser of two evils. A vote for McCain is a vote for pragmatism rather than principle. I think McCain might be slightly better in the short-run, but if electing him means unsatisfactory candidates like him will continue being nominated in the long-run, I’m not so sure it’s that great an idea.

  16. Scott says:

    None of this:

    “Obama minimized his relationship by acknowledging only that he knows Ayers. But they have quite a bit more of a connection than that. He’s appeared on panels with Ayers, served on a foundation board with him and held a 1995 campaign event at the home of Ayers and his wife, fellow former terrorist Bernardine Dohrn. Ayers even gave money to one of his campaigns.”

    makes Ayers his friend and just looking at the link on the other matter doesn’t mean much to me. I’ve had people that I’ve looked up to as a young man turn out to be less than stellar individuals. Maybe I am drinking the Obama koolaid but I don’t see anything damning there. Does he have a “questionable past”? Sure ask all the questions you want, just don’t grasp at straws or strawmen. I don’t think he’s perfect and like you say in a newer post part of it boils down to voting for the least objectionable candidate. Not something I enjoy doing, but I gotta vote for someone.

    Any comments that I make on someone’s blog isn’t just for the author. Again if your viewing habits are pretty broad, great. I was just pointing out that narrow viewing habits (right or left) lead to narrow minds.

    And of course if Obama doesn’t win that doesn’t mean American is racist. But race does play a part for some.

  17. casey says:

    It’s not about knowing someone who turned out to be less than stellar. It’s about associating with someone who has already been involved in terrorist activities. Holding a campaign event at someone’s home does not make you friends? Oooookay. Maybe it’s close-minded of me, but I don’t think politicians should hold fundraisers at the homes of terrorists, former or otherwise.

  18. Scott says:

    Well the gut he knew in Honolulu he knew while he was a child if I get the time line right. That’s what I meant about having a mentor that turns out to be something you aren’t proud of. I don’t think Obama is a communist or is pro-communism.

    Of course there isn’t anything wrong with being a communist. As a form of government I don’t think it’s the best and it usually ends up hurting the people it purports to help, but being one doesn’t make you evil any more than being pro-democracy makes you inherently good.

    Having a campaign fund raiser somewhere doesn’t make you the organizer’s friend. I’d raise funds for Obama at my house if that would do any good. Doesn’t make me his friend.

    The charges against Ayers were dropped, which in this country makes you innocent. Maybe it’s closed minded of me, but I think that politicians should be able to accept funds/fundraisers from anyone who isn’t a convicted criminal. Heck they should be able to receive funds from a convict and I would imagine they can.

  19. casey says:

    Alright, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one, then. No hand over his heart during the National Anthem. A wife who says she’s never been proud of her country until now. A pastor who says “God d*** America.” These stories form a pattern. At some point you can’t keep explaining it away. This is a pattern that makes Obama seem weak on national security to me and lacking in powers of discernment. If you don’t see it, I can’t make you. I’d say being a communist shows you’re not fit to offer advice on how to run a democracy, but hey, that’s just me (I’m responding to your comment, by the way, not accusing Obama of being a communist).

    Even if the charges were dropped, Ayers was still part of an organization that did engage in terrorist acts. He may have been found innocent for a particular incident, but he was knowingly part of a terrorist organization. Accepting funds from such an individual and holding campaigns at his house is disgraceful in my opinion.