Comments on: Another scandal in the works http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html A blog about current events from a Christian perspective. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:48:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Carol http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html/comment-page-1#comment-582 Carol Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:02:29 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html#comment-582 I'm more outraged by their erroneous teachings than the mount of money they make because what they teach affects everyone in ear shot. And if they are bent on getting their rewards now, then that's all they'll get. They have to answer for their doings one Day. I’m more outraged by their erroneous teachings than the mount of money they make because what they teach affects everyone in ear shot. And if they are bent on getting their rewards now, then that’s all they’ll get. They have to answer for their doings one Day.

]]> By: Kansas Bob http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html/comment-page-1#comment-566 Kansas Bob Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:39:44 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html#comment-566 The problem with many of their book sales is that many of their books are written on the church dime.. some are merely a regurgitation of their church sermons which tithe money paid for. It is a complex web of <a href="http://kansasbob.blogspot.com/2007/08/clergy-entitlement.html" rel="nofollow">clergy entitlement</a> and hero worship. The problem with many of their book sales is that many of their books are written on the church dime.. some are merely a regurgitation of their church sermons which tithe money paid for. It is a complex web of clergy entitlement and hero worship.

]]> By: casey http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html/comment-page-1#comment-560 casey Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:45:54 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html#comment-560 Okay. I'd concede that those are somewhat high figures for salaries considering the work in which they're involved, although they're not astronomical. It depends on where they live, too. Some areas have higher costs of living. I have no problem with them earning money from book sales and speaking engagements, however. Okay. I’d concede that those are somewhat high figures for salaries considering the work in which they’re involved, although they’re not astronomical. It depends on where they live, too. Some areas have higher costs of living. I have no problem with them earning money from book sales and speaking engagements, however.

]]> By: Kansas Bob http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html/comment-page-1#comment-552 Kansas Bob Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:42:25 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html#comment-552 My understanding is that these numbers are salary figures.. not sure that I want to know what the book sales receipts look like :( I found some interesting artices on the Billy Graham founded ECFA.. all is not kosher.. most evangelical churches and religious organizations refuse to release salary figures for their leaders.. unlike publicly traded corportations that have to release compensation levels. It is sad how little accountability and integrity there is in Evangelical America.. sadly it speaks to the larger issues confronting us. My understanding is that these numbers are salary figures.. not sure that I want to know what the book sales receipts look like :(

I found some interesting artices on the Billy Graham founded ECFA.. all is not kosher.. most evangelical churches and religious organizations refuse to release salary figures for their leaders.. unlike publicly traded corportations that have to release compensation levels.

It is sad how little accountability and integrity there is in Evangelical America.. sadly it speaks to the larger issues confronting us.

]]> By: casey http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html/comment-page-1#comment-546 casey Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:07:09 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html#comment-546 Bob, Are these salaries really coming from their ministries, or are they coming from book deals and speaking arrangements? What is the source of that information? Bob,

Are these salaries really coming from their ministries, or are they coming from book deals and speaking arrangements? What is the source of that information?

]]> By: Kansas Bob http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html/comment-page-1#comment-542 Kansas Bob Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:12:24 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html#comment-542 Just a few figures to illustrate my point: Billy Graham [Director and Chairman of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association (BGEA)] … $406,830. William Franklin Graham III [as President and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association (BGEA)] ... $94,998. William Franklin Graham III [as President and CEO of Samaritan's Purse] …$304,308 Total Package… $399,306. Hank Hanegraaff [President of The Christian Research Institute (CRI)] … $210,192, His wife Kathy Hanegraaff [Director of Planning The Christian Research Institute (CRI)] … $127,431 Total Package … $337,623. Ravi Zacharias, President of Ravi Zacharias International Ministries... $191,498. Just a few figures to illustrate my point:

Billy Graham [Director and Chairman of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association (BGEA)] …
$406,830.

William Franklin Graham III [as President and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association (BGEA)] … $94,998.
William Franklin Graham III [as President and CEO of Samaritan's Purse] …$304,308
Total Package… $399,306.

Hank Hanegraaff [President of The Christian Research Institute (CRI)] … $210,192,
His wife Kathy Hanegraaff [Director of Planning The Christian Research Institute (CRI)] … $127,431
Total Package … $337,623.

Ravi Zacharias, President of Ravi Zacharias International Ministries… $191,498.

]]> By: casey http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html/comment-page-1#comment-540 casey Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:26:49 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html#comment-540 Yeah, greed can affect even the non-prosperity teachers. It's really sad. Yeah, greed can affect even the non-prosperity teachers. It’s really sad.

]]> By: Kansas Bob http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html/comment-page-1#comment-539 Kansas Bob Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:16:18 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html#comment-539 About 25 years ago I stopped sending money to large radio and TV "ministries". I don't think that it is wise to give money to people that you do not have a personal relationship with.. people who you cannot hold personally accountable. Alas, I am probably in the minority on this one.. if not there wouldn't be so many radio and TV preachers. And about the "prosperity preachers".. anyone ever check on those other fundamentalist ones? One local SBC pastor lives like a king and has been the object of several newspaper articles. I know several other local pastors who make 6 figures. This stuff isn't limited to the prosperity folks.. greed is the common theme. About 25 years ago I stopped sending money to large radio and TV “ministries”. I don’t think that it is wise to give money to people that you do not have a personal relationship with.. people who you cannot hold personally accountable. Alas, I am probably in the minority on this one.. if not there wouldn’t be so many radio and TV preachers.

And about the “prosperity preachers”.. anyone ever check on those other fundamentalist ones? One local SBC pastor lives like a king and has been the object of several newspaper articles. I know several other local pastors who make 6 figures. This stuff isn’t limited to the prosperity folks.. greed is the common theme.

]]> By: Dan Anton http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html/comment-page-1#comment-538 Dan Anton Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:20:37 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html#comment-538 Religabusiness...seriously laughable..they want you to plant a thousand dollar seed so it can grow into a brand new car for them ;). I'm more spiritual than religious because of the nonsense attached to it and justifications for wars Religabusiness…seriously laughable..they want you to plant a thousand dollar seed so it can grow into a brand new car for them ;) . I’m more spiritual than religious because of the nonsense attached to it and justifications for wars

]]> By: Joe Jordan http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html/comment-page-1#comment-537 Joe Jordan Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:16:51 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/televangelist_scandal.html#comment-537 Senator Grassley's investigation underscores the gap that can exist between personal and financial accountability. To state that one is acting within the parameters of the law or that a board reviews all financial transactions is one thing. Demonstrating maturity of character and good judgment in how money is used is something else. I am reminded of the words of a 19th century evangelist who was known on two continents without the aid of television, "If I take chare of my character, my reputation will take care of itself" (D.L. Moody). Senator Grassley’s investigation underscores the gap that can exist between personal and financial accountability. To state that one is acting within the parameters of the law or that a board reviews all financial transactions is one thing. Demonstrating maturity of character and good judgment in how money is used is something else.

I am reminded of the words of a 19th century evangelist who was known on two continents without the aid of television, “If I take chare of my character, my reputation will take care of itself” (D.L. Moody).

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