Comments on: Opposing same sex marriages

By: Kansas Bob

Kansas Bob — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:08:45 +0000

I decided to post on the difference between the 2 at my place and from what I see the difference is only a legal one.

Interesting that Bill Clinton signed the bill that defined marriage as one between opposite sexes.

By: casey

casey — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:56:54 +0000

What is the difference between civil unions and marriage? Any argument against gay marriage is an argument against civil unions, is it not? It’s only a matter of semantics. An argument against drunk driving is an argument against driving under the influence of alcohol.

By: Kansas Bob

Kansas Bob — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:04:07 +0000

Maybe I missed it but I don’t remember Randy’s article addressing civil unions. That to me is the issue that our country faces - do citizens have a civil right to a civil union?

“strict marital monogamy” sounds more like an indictment against divorce than it does civil unions.

Of course no one in the church likes to rail against divorce any more.. we’d rather make it all about hetero vs homo.. something most of us don’t have to deal with.

Sorry for the rant.. I see so much devastation from divorce in my pastoral role.. it just makes me sad that homosexual marriage gets so much attention and heterosexual divorce has become accepted as a reality in the church.

By: casey

casey — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:52:55 +0000

That was the point of Randy’s post, wasn’t it? Anyway, here’s another one:

In his 1934 book, Sex and Culture, Unwin chronicled the historical decline of 86 different cultures. His exhaustive survey revealed that “strict marital monogamy” was central to social energy and growth. Indeed, no society flourished for more than three generations without it. Unwin stated it this way, “In human records there is no instance of a society retaining its energy after a complete new generation has inherited a tradition which does not insist on prenuptial and postnuptial continence.”

http://www.meridianmagazine.com/ideas/040213brink.html

By: Kansas Bob

Kansas Bob — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:53:14 +0000

Removing any religious beliefs from the mix then how can one argue against a “civil” union?

By: Casey

Casey — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:43:28 +0000

Exactly. What is the difference between civil unions and marriage? I say no to both, because they are one and the same.

By: Kansas Bob

Kansas Bob — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:18:04 +0000

I agree with Randy on marriage but what about civil unions? Should the government okay them? If not, then are civil rights being violated? If so, then what is the difference - tomato.. tomahto - marriage.. civil union?