Liberals, liberals, everywhere

According to National Journal’s ratings, Barack Hussein Obama was the most liberal of all US senators in 2007. Hillary was ranked 16th. Those conservatives who are thinking an Obama presidency would be better than a Hillary one better think again. On the Republican side, we have John McCain, who didn’t even vote enough last year to be ranked but was able to pull off a 56% conservative voting record from the same group in 2006. In other words, he votes liberal 44% of the time. Then we have Mitt Romney, who switched to the conservative position just in time to run for president, and Mike Huckabee, who is a social conservative but also a fiscal and national security liberal. (Of course, there’s also Ron Paul, who has a 60% conservative rating–voting libertarian, which ends up putting him on the same side as liberals 40% of the time). Where, oh where, is a conservative supposed to go?

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20 Responses to “Liberals, liberals, everywhere”

  1. Deena says:

    Yes, liberals…liberals everywhere….a very SCARY atmosphere!

  2. Kansas Bob says:

    We have met the enemy and it is us.. we splintered conservatives that is :(

  3. casey says:

    I’m still holding out hope for a brokered convention…

  4. Lincoln says:

    Can I slit my wrists now?

  5. casey says:

    At least wait and see what happens, Linc. :P

  6. Kansas Bob says:

    I think that McCain will get the nomination because he is the smartest politician. He played everyone against each other (still is) and had all of the candidates doing his dirty work in the primaries. What he is now saying about Romney and timetables is simply lies. Maybe we ae just getting who we deserve.. at least it is not Rudy.. of course Rudy endorsed John.. sigh :(

  7. Rick Rouse says:

    We’re faced with the task of choosing between the lesser of several evils, and it certainly isn’t going to be an easy one.

  8. Scott says:

    FYI, liberals aren’t evil. ;-)

    Also how often does one have to vote conservative to be conservative?

    Scott “Barack in ’08” Roche

  9. childlife says:

    LOL at Kansas Bob’s Kelly quote :)


    I say we go HERE

    And photographic documentation that liberals are evil…



  10. casey says:

    Correction, Scott. Not ALL liberals are evil. Some mean well, I’m sure. :P As for Obama, I’ll have to quote Rick and concede that he “does seem to have a solid set of core values – all of which are diametrically opposed to mine.” An Obama presidency will destroy the economy, probably result in another terrorist attack on US soil, and will likely ensure that abortion remains legal for the next half a century. Why would you vote for someone with so little experience, anyway? At least Hillary was co-president for 8 years…

  11. casey says:

    childlife, thanks for the links. :D The picture of Hillary is great. :-j

  12. Scott says:

    Thanks Casey for just coming short of patting me on the head. :-P

    An Obama presidency will no more destroy the economy or cause a terrorist attack then Bush’s presidency… Oh wait, 9/11 was on Bush’s watch and the economy is pretty much in the turlet.

    As for abortion I think it should be decided on a state by state basis.

    When you voted for Bush you voted for someone with no practical experience, so no pointing fingers. You did vote for Bush right? Neither Dem has “experience” in running a country and I’m okay with that.

    As far as all of Obama’s values being diametrically opposed to yours I’m that you’re talking out of your hat. You don’t know what all of his values are. You’re just cherry picking a few “biggies”. And that’s fine. We all do that.

  13. casey says:

    Scott, a governor with no practical governing experience? You’ll need to elaborate on that one. 9/11 happened because the terrorists considered us a paper tiger and because Clinton handicapped our intelligence capabilities. We’ve had no more attacks since then. I’d say that’s a pretty remarkable thing. Mark my words, though, if a Democrat becomes president there will be another terrorist attack on our soil (which will be blamed on the war in Iraq, of course). If the economy is in the toilet now, I hope it stays in the toilet…

    -Sarcasm alert-
    Slavery should have been decided on a state by state basis, too.

  14. Scott says:

    Not on a federal level at any rate. Five years as governor is about as good as what O and H have in my humble.

    Oh I see, you can blame linton (and perhaps rightly so) and the next president can’t blame W. Convenient. Well I know we both hope you’re wrong.

    And as far as our economy goes, I’d like to know how you think it’s good. When the gov’t feels the need to drop a “stimulus pkg” that’s the dumbest idea I’ve heard of in a while and the housing market is this crappy I’m eager to hear what you think.

    Also, slavery would seem to be a Constitutional issue considering the gov’t decided to address it in the Constitution, both indirectly in the preamble and the ninth amendment, not to mention later. I’d say that the tenth amendment covers abortion. Obviously the Supremes disagree.

  15. casey says:

    Well, before I get trapped in a corner defending a position I don’t agree with, let me say that George W. has not governed as a conservative when it comes to the economy. If the economy does go under it will be because he allowed spending to go unchecked. I think the media is pushing the idea that we’re headed for a recession because they want the American people to believe it. Everyone I know is doing better than they were 8 years ago. Why is it that the media tells us the economy is awful when there’s a Republican in the White House and then tells us it’s great when it’s a Democrat?

    By the way, this post was originally intended to complain that there are no conservatives in the race. Surely that’s a legitimate complaint, don’t you think? It was you that mentioned liberals and evil. I’m fairly certain that I have never said that all liberals are evil. If you’re taking offense to me saying that some liberals mean well, why did you even make the joke in the first place?

    For what it’s worth, Scott, I consider you a friend. I think we agree on quite a few things. If it sounds like I’m being rude or something, please give me the benefit of the doubt.

  16. Scott says:

    I’m glad that everyone you know is doing well. I know a lot of people that are too or at least they look like they are. I also know how much credit most people use and what sorts of interest rates get charged. And if we’re doing so well as a country then why (again) do we need a stimulus package (one I think we both agree is a bad idea)? Why is the housing market so bad? Unemployment is low, sure. There are plenty of jobs, but how well do most of those jobs pay? If you think the economy is good well all I have to say is I think you’re in the minority.

    As far as the media and what they tell us one way or another, I agree, there is a media bias, but as you say W is no conservative when it comes to money. And teh economy (as I remember it) under Clinton was pretty good. It was never perfect though. And Clinton was FAR from a perfect president. I did vote for him the first time but once was enough for me.

    As far as conservatives in the race are concerned, there were plenty. They weren’t “electable” apparently so they did get the support from your party and the usual supporters (the Religious Right backing Giuliani, what was THAT about??). So as you say there aren’t any more. Personally I blame W for giving you guys a bad name. I don’t have a problem with most conservatives/republicans. They’re good people and make some good points. Reagan did some great things. I actually like Huckabee (though he may be too fiscally liberal for some). And I did say not all liberals were evil but tongue was in cheek there. For the record, that post wasn’t about you and I didn’t have you specifically in mind when I wrote it. I was reacting more to some theological bloggers that have gotten consumed by politics.

    So all that being said, I don’t have a problem with you Casey. I like your blog, else I wouldn’t come here. I disagree with about 90% of what you say and I think you could moderate how you say it, but at least you’re not Rush. I just want iron to sharpen iron. If what I wrote hit close to home and helps you then good. If you don’t think it applies to you, fine. Just beware of rhetoric and hyperbole. It makes for shabby writing and shabbier politics.

  17. Scott says:

    “so they did get the support from your party” should be did not

  18. casey says:

    Thanks, Scott. >:D< Your replies to me on that post and the timing led me to believe you were referring to me. I have a very sarcastic sense of humor, so hopefully you'll be able to overlook it.

  19. Danny Vice says:

    Conservatives are beginning to amaze me in their inability to see what’s really at stake here. This election is about more than McCain and his inability to follow conservative principals.

    How is handing the whole country over to far left liberals a suitable alternative to McCain? What principal is that?

    There is a serious difference between McCain and a pure-bread liberal who is bent on destroying ALL conservative values permanently.

    Today’s liberal is not like the Bill Clinton’s Presidency. It’s moved radically left… Clinton is now considered a moderated, and loosing it’s power because it’s not radically liberal enough.

    The Democratic candidate that is surging now, Obama, is bottom of the barrel liberal. He is about to take power, unless conservatives stop fighting and get serious.

    This would give liberals what they will treat as a clear sign from America that is it ready to move sharply to the left. Not slightly to the left.

    Cherry picking our candidate is exactly what got us INTO this mess, and if conservatives aren’t careful, they will allow our country spiral out of control.

    There is no such thing as a quick recovery from 4 years of radical liberalism unchecked. We may be facing what will take years and years of damage to undo. What’s more, there’s no guarantee that it WILL be undone. Have conservatives completely forgotten Roe v. Wade and other extremely important issues?

    Questioning McCain was right and highly useful for a time and a season. Many of us wish we had acted sooner to support Romney or Huck…. But staying home on election day allows liberals a pass to capture all THREE branches of Government. Our kids deserve better out of us.

    I’m not asking anyone to sacrifice their own belief or convictions, but we have a serious problem here that requires that we do everything we can to minimize the damage this election can cause to our society.

    I’d rather have 50% of McCains ear, than 0% of a liberals ear.

    Give it some thought, friends.

    Danny Vice

  20. Rick Rouse says:

    Is the economy really in the toilet? Well, compared to the one that Jimmy Carter (the poster boy for liberal fiscal policies) left for Ronald Reagan, I’d say it’s sitting on a pretty high pedestal. Is it as good as it could be? Of course not, and Bush’s policy of spending like a drunken sailor (and quite unlike the true conservative that he posed as when he ran his campaigns) surely helped it get into the shape it’s in.

    Another factor to consider was the way the liberally-biased media kept telling the American people that the economy was headed south back when it was in fact doing very well, a strategy that worked all too well to create a self-fulfilling prophesy that eventually resulted in the economy indeed heading south faster than it would have otherwise. But all that being said, given the fact that our economy weathered the storm of 9-11 and suffered severely at the hands of NAFTA, I still think it’s doing pretty well. A bellyache for sure, but by no means dreadfully ill. A true conservative president could whip it into shape fairy quickly.

    If you really think about the situation logically, the economy getting worse towards the end of Bush’s Presidency should BOLSTER the case for needing a true conservative in the White House, not hinder it. After all, with the exception of the hugely successful tax cuts, Bush has managed the economy quite like a liberal, not a conservative.