In keeping with the day, I “encourage” you to post more of these wildly funny posts!

…And I thought conversations were confusing at my house…

The person sounds a bit like a “Christian Scientist”.

What I’d like to know is — how many levels of hallucination does he have? Like is he hallucinating that he hallucinating, or something like that…

I better stop while I am ahead and not confused.

Sorry, I musta been hallucinating till now coz I just realized you added me to your blog roll.

Or did Keanu Reeves tell me about it?

I can’t remember.

But thank you! :-)

This is no hallucination: God bless, and Shalom!

I remembered … I’ll be back in March expecting funny!

Hi Casey,

you forgot to include my last resonse to you at Blogcatalog.

Here we go - that’s what I wrote:
“Thanks, Casey. In other words, I admit to my fraudulence. For that I have to forgive myself. I don’t see any other way but to teach myself, and to use the power of my mind and stay active with a true purpose. It is always a miracle.”

To everyone here, all I can say, the idea of continuing a “life” that will inevitably end in death, with lots of pain, sickness and getting old on the way, held no attraction to me, at least not enough to stay away from considering a real alternative meaning something NOT THIS. All I know, is that I have a choice. My thoughts are not idle. My thoughts make up the world I experience. Therefore, do I want what I see? If not, I know where I have to turn to, even if I find myself in a place of addiction to death - that is all forms of fear - in my mind.

It is all a matter of time. Sooner or later, I will let go of my ideas, because they don’t bring happiness. How painful does it have to get, before we claim that there has to be a better way? Anyone seen “The Brave One”, the new movie with Jodie Foster yet? It is by far not an enjoyable movie at all, but I think that is the mindset of the human being, trying to set things right in a desperate attempt to escape what it sees as an attack upon itself. It does not know of other than revenge. Yet it will never succeed with this kind of action of mind. Nothing changes through getting even, and all I will be in that is a hardened person.

FYI, Christian scientists and Scientologists are not the same thing.

Well Wiki may have said it better, but Scientology is a pseudo-religion started by L. Ron Hubbard spawned from Dianetics. Chrisitan Science was started by a woman in the 19th century (I think) and says that all we experience here is more or less in our minds. CS is an offshoot/cult of Christianity. Scientology has nothing in common with either CS or Christianity.

I’ve had a few conversations like that. Wait…that guy sounds like me in high school. Maybe I finally figured out how to transcend time and you were chatting with my high school self.

Entirely possible since all reality is a figment of my own imagination.

Would just like to point out some interesting ideas.

The first paragraph is enough to get an idea of it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism

And this is also interesting (I’m linking to a sub-section).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum#Criticisms_of_the_cogito

So, “there are thoughts”. Don’t think you can say, ‘there are hallucinations’ (because the differentiation between ‘thoughts’ and ‘hallucinations’ is yet another thought.

Yes, Dukkha, I see your point. And I agree, the differentiation would not matter, except for one thing. What about reality?

A Course In Miracles teaches, my thoughts are images i have made. I see my thoughts as images. I am an image maker. That does not represent reality.

Would you say, God’s thoughts are not different from mine? If they are different, then I would have to call my thoughts hallucinations, no matter if they appear to me as images or not.
It all depends on the possibility of this world. If it is possible, and therefore true and real, then I rest my case. What is your starting point? Do you start with a single source of reality?

Alban,

What about reality?

It is true that any ideas you have of things ‘existing’ beyond, above, and outside of yourself are merely ideas.

Whatever you make of them, your senses and your thoughts are the inescapable “reality”.

Would you say, God’s thoughts are not different from mine? If they are different, then I would have to call my thoughts hallucinations, no matter if they appear to me as images or not.

I don’t get how you can make that inference. Maybe it’s a semantic misunderstanding by me.

Calling it a hallucination in no way changes the nature of the ‘reality’ I mentioned above.

Hallucination is a word most people use to describe sensory input without external stimuli (i.e. as experienced by psychotics and schizophrenics).

Maybe you’ll find this interesting.

What is your starting point? Do you start with a single source of reality?

Doesn’t reality unfold itself?

‘Myself’ is another mental concoction. What makes you believe that your sense of self is not yet another hallucination?

“With what frame of mind should one discipline oneself in the truth?”
Said the Zen master, “There is no mind to be framed, nor is there any truth in which to be disciplined.”
“If there is no mind to be framed and no truth in which to be disciplined, why do you have a daily gathering of monks who are studying Zen and disciplining themselves in the truth?”
The master replied: “I have not an inch of space to spare, and where
could I have a gathering of monks?
I have no tongue, and how would it be possible for me to advise others to come to me?”
The philosopher then exclaimed, “How can you tell a lie like that to my face.”
“When I have no tongue to advise others, is it possible for me to tell a lie?”
Said Doko despairingly, “I cannot follow your reasoning.”
“Neither do I understand myself,” concluded the Zen master.

The one (in italics) at the top of this page is also worth reading.

If God’s thoughts are different from mine, therefore setting up conflict and contradiction, mine cannot be true. Otherwise the fundamental idea that truth is true and nothing else is true would be violated. God is the ultimate reality. Everything not in line with His idea cannot be true.

I think you will not be able to find any universally accepted definition of anything. Look at the evolution of some basic concepts like God over time, for instance in the Old Testament. You would have to tell me, what accepted definition you refer to.

Maybe, I did not express myself clearly. If my thoughts are different from God’s thoughts, I am obviously in a state of conflict. Not because of what God thinks, but because of what I think. Yet that implies already that there can be anything other than God. How could that be? Only in my separate mind, which is not a real possibility.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mereological_nihilism

“thus the world we see and experience full of objects with parts is a product of human misperception”

So I guess you’re right: we’re seeing stuff that isn’t really there.

I thought this was humorous (Eris being the deity in their mock religion):

GREATER POOP: Is Eris true?
MALACLYPSE THE YOUNGER: Everything is true.
GP: Even false things?
M2: Even false things are true.
GP: How can that be?
M2: I don’t know man, I didn’t do it.