Comments on: Thoughts on homosexuality http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html A blog about current events from a Christian perspective. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:48:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Lincoln http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html/comment-page-1#comment-362 Lincoln Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:49:54 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html#comment-362 Renae, I think you misunderstood, I was saying that were are born with a predisposition towards specific kinds of sinful behavior. it doesn't mean we have no choice but to give into it, but it explains why some people struggle with alcoholism for example, while others have no apparent desire to drink at all. It's a mixture of genetics, learned behavior and choice. Ultimately though, because the Bible teaches us that bondage to sin can be broken, we are still accountable. :) Renae, I think you misunderstood, I was saying that were are born with a predisposition towards specific kinds of sinful behavior. it doesn’t mean we have no choice but to give into it, but it explains why some people struggle with alcoholism for example, while others have no apparent desire to drink at all. It’s a mixture of genetics, learned behavior and choice. Ultimately though, because the Bible teaches us that bondage to sin can be broken, we are still accountable. :)

]]> By: Renae http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html/comment-page-1#comment-360 Renae Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:28:41 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html#comment-360 Casey, Yes, I agree with you. We are accountable for the actions that we choose. Without choice there is no virtue or condemnation. There is blessing in controlling our appetites and desires. No one can be forced to love, just as no one can be forced to sin. Casey,
Yes, I agree with you. We are accountable for the actions that we choose. Without choice there is no virtue or condemnation. There is blessing in controlling our appetites and desires. No one can be forced to love, just as no one can be forced to sin.

]]> By: casey http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html/comment-page-1#comment-357 casey Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:10:47 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html#comment-357 Renae, I think it depends on how you define "control." If I'm born heterosexual, I can't "control" my sexual attraction to the opposite sex. I can, however, control whether or not I have sexual relations outside the confines of marriage as defined by the Bible. Even if homosexuals are born that way, it doesn't excuse them from their actions. As you say, sin is always a choice. Renae,

I think it depends on how you define “control.” If I’m born heterosexual, I can’t “control” my sexual attraction to the opposite sex. I can, however, control whether or not I have sexual relations outside the confines of marriage as defined by the Bible. Even if homosexuals are born that way, it doesn’t excuse them from their actions. As you say, sin is always a choice.

]]> By: Renae http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html/comment-page-1#comment-355 Renae Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:59:51 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html#comment-355 Lincoln, Scripture clearly states that we are accountable for our actions. Why would a reasonable God hold us accountable for something we cannot control? Read Ezekiel 18. Sin is always a choice, as is love. Lincoln,
Scripture clearly states that we are accountable for our actions. Why would a reasonable God hold us accountable for something we cannot control? Read Ezekiel 18. Sin is always a choice, as is love.

]]> By: Lincoln http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html/comment-page-1#comment-353 Lincoln Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:04:07 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html#comment-353 I do think sin is hereditary, and is why the Bible speaks of the sins of fathers passing on even to the third and fourth generation, or more accurately, the sin nature. I usually liken it to alcoholism. You're not born an alcoholic, but you can be born with a predisposition towards becoming one. That's why children of alcoholics tend to become alcoholics themselves. They're fighting the sin nature that was passed on to them by their parents, and so on. And ultimately we all inherited the fallen nature from Adam. I do think sin is hereditary, and is why the Bible speaks of the sins of fathers passing on even to the third and fourth generation, or more accurately, the sin nature. I usually liken it to alcoholism. You’re not born an alcoholic, but you can be born with a predisposition towards becoming one. That’s why children of alcoholics tend to become alcoholics themselves. They’re fighting the sin nature that was passed on to them by their parents, and so on. And ultimately we all inherited the fallen nature from Adam.

]]> By: casey http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html/comment-page-1#comment-346 casey Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:44:08 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html#comment-346 Sorry, Mike. Once again, I think the texts speak for themselves. You can twist and contort what is actually written, but the meaning is fairly obvious when you take the words at face value. You are correct to note that procreation is not the only purpose for the sexual organs. I misspoke. The word should have been "function." Thank you for pointing that out. I will change it now. Sorry, Mike. Once again, I think the texts speak for themselves. You can twist and contort what is actually written, but the meaning is fairly obvious when you take the words at face value.

You are correct to note that procreation is not the only purpose for the sexual organs. I misspoke. The word should have been “function.” Thank you for pointing that out. I will change it now.

]]> By: Mike http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html/comment-page-1#comment-343 Mike Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:06:37 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html#comment-343 <i>Whether someone is born with homosexual tendencies or not, the Bible does teach that gay sex is an abomination. When the purpose of the sexual organs is considered, this is not such a hard thing to understand.</i> I think banning homosexuality based on the <i>purpose</i> of the sexual organs is slightly flawed unless you take the stance that all sex is immoral unless procreation intended. Most Christians would not agree with this, except some Roman Catholics. Most would agree that sex is also to do with expressing intimacy in relationship. Of course, there are also many takes on Romans 1. If you've got time have a look <a href="http://www.courage.org.uk/articles/Romans1.shtml">here.</a> Whether someone is born with homosexual tendencies or not, the Bible does teach that gay sex is an abomination. When the purpose of the sexual organs is considered, this is not such a hard thing to understand. I think banning homosexuality based on the purpose of the sexual organs is slightly flawed unless you take the stance that all sex is immoral unless procreation intended. Most Christians would not agree with this, except some Roman Catholics. Most would agree that sex is also to do with expressing intimacy in relationship. Of course, there are also many takes on Romans 1. If you’ve got time have a look here.

]]> By: Mulled Vine http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html/comment-page-1#comment-337 Mulled Vine Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:15:35 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/homosexuality.html#comment-337 An excellent courageous post. Hear, hear. An excellent courageous post. Hear, hear.

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