Comments on: Giuliani just doesn’t get it… http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html A blog about current events from a Christian perspective. Fri, 02 Jul 2010 03:59:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: casey http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html/comment-page-1#comment-957 casey Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:21:47 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html#comment-957 Which would I prefer? Obviously, I wish we lived in a perfect world and there was no need for borders. Unfortunately we can't simply let everyone in who wants in. It's not safe and it's not economically feasible. So we have to have borders, and if we're going to have borders they need to be enforced fairly. Which would I prefer? Obviously, I wish we lived in a perfect world and there was no need for borders. Unfortunately we can’t simply let everyone in who wants in. It’s not safe and it’s not economically feasible. So we have to have borders, and if we’re going to have borders they need to be enforced fairly.

]]> By: Lincoln http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html/comment-page-1#comment-954 Lincoln Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:00:57 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html#comment-954 I like Rudy but he needs to see our files on criminal offenders. You wouldn't believe how many are not even here legally, driving around without licenses, selling drugs, committing violent crimes. Our crime rate would drop like a brick if even a fraction of these vermin were deported. Mexico loves this because they are exporting the worst elements of their society through our borders so we have to deal with them instead, and if anyone tries to say anything about it we're immediately accused of being racist. This romanticized notion that everyone who crosses the Southern border are wearing sombreros and carrying guitars really needs to stop. I like Rudy but he needs to see our files on criminal offenders. You wouldn’t believe how many are not even here legally, driving around without licenses, selling drugs, committing violent crimes. Our crime rate would drop like a brick if even a fraction of these vermin were deported.

Mexico loves this because they are exporting the worst elements of their society through our borders so we have to deal with them instead, and if anyone tries to say anything about it we’re immediately accused of being racist. This romanticized notion that everyone who crosses the Southern border are wearing sombreros and carrying guitars really needs to stop.

]]> By: Scott http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html/comment-page-1#comment-951 Scott Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:57:48 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html#comment-951 So which would you prefer? The former is more historically what we're about as a country. We had open borders far longer than we didn't. Personally I don't want to live in a country surrounded by barbed wire and machine gun nests. So which would you prefer? The former is more historically what we’re about as a country. We had open borders far longer than we didn’t. Personally I don’t want to live in a country surrounded by barbed wire and machine gun nests.

]]> By: casey http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html/comment-page-1#comment-935 casey Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:31:40 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html#comment-935 No, I didn't. I can give you links to reports that show that illegal immigrants place an undo burden on society through violent crime and others that show that they do in fact take jobs from American citizens. It's going to be really hard to separate opinion from fact. My thoughts on the matter are that we either take an open borders policy or we enforce the borders without prejudice. The situation we have today is simply unfair. No, I didn’t. I can give you links to reports that show that illegal immigrants place an undo burden on society through violent crime and others that show that they do in fact take jobs from American citizens. It’s going to be really hard to separate opinion from fact. My thoughts on the matter are that we either take an open borders policy or we enforce the borders without prejudice. The situation we have today is simply unfair.

]]> By: Scott http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html/comment-page-1#comment-933 Scott Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:55:45 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html#comment-933 No I don't. That's why I think it should be easier for immigrants to come in. Did you listen to the audio and look at the report? No I don’t. That’s why I think it should be easier for immigrants to come in. Did you listen to the audio and look at the report?

]]> By: casey http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html/comment-page-1#comment-927 casey Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:38:40 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html#comment-927 That's really beside the point. If you've ever tried to bring a family member into the country legally, you'd know that it's a long and grueling process and that you are subjected to some of the rudest treatment you could imagine. On the other hand, if you're an unskilled worker you can pretty much stay under the radar. Then, if they grant you amnesty, you've passed up all those who are waiting in line legally. You can't possibly tell me you think that is fair. That’s really beside the point. If you’ve ever tried to bring a family member into the country legally, you’d know that it’s a long and grueling process and that you are subjected to some of the rudest treatment you could imagine. On the other hand, if you’re an unskilled worker you can pretty much stay under the radar. Then, if they grant you amnesty, you’ve passed up all those who are waiting in line legally. You can’t possibly tell me you think that is fair.

]]> By: Scott http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html/comment-page-1#comment-924 Scott Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:32:04 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html#comment-924 You might check out this: http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/pr-immig.html#contents and listen to this: http://www.wfu.edu/voices/vot.immigration/immigration.media.html You might check out this: http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/pr-immig.html#contents
and listen to this:
http://www.wfu.edu/voices/vot.immigration/immigration.media.html

]]> By: casey http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html/comment-page-1#comment-883 casey Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:30:20 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html#comment-883 You must not know anyone who is trying to come to the country legally, Scott. It is unfair to let people who come illegally pass up those who come legally. When they send 80 or 90 percent of what they earn back to their home country, it's hard to say they're contributing, anyway. I deleted the cache for your gravatar, so now it shows up. You must not know anyone who is trying to come to the country legally, Scott. It is unfair to let people who come illegally pass up those who come legally. When they send 80 or 90 percent of what they earn back to their home country, it’s hard to say they’re contributing, anyway.

I deleted the cache for your gravatar, so now it shows up.

]]> By: Scott http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html/comment-page-1#comment-882 Scott Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:05:25 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html#comment-882 Does my gravatar work? Does my gravatar work?

]]> By: Scott http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html/comment-page-1#comment-881 Scott Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:55:50 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/giuliani_amnesty.html#comment-881 "If you come here illegally, you shouldn’t be allowed to stay. It’s really that simple." If only it were. If you come here illegally and contribute to our economy then I think we should give you a path to citizenship. Is that amnesty? Sure, why not. Is amnesty a bad thing? I don't think so provided that it's limited. “If you come here illegally, you shouldn’t be allowed to stay. It’s really that simple.”

If only it were. If you come here illegally and contribute to our economy then I think we should give you a path to citizenship. Is that amnesty? Sure, why not. Is amnesty a bad thing? I don’t think so provided that it’s limited.

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