Giuliani just doesn’t get it…

If you get to stay (in other words, cut line in front of people who are trying to get into the country legally), it’s amnesty. Giuliani just can’t seem to wrap his mind around the concept. If you come here illegally, you shouldn’t be allowed to stay. It’s really that simple.


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10 Responses to “Giuliani just doesn’t get it…”

  1. Scott says:

    “If you come here illegally, you shouldn’t be allowed to stay. It’s really that simple.”

    If only it were. If you come here illegally and contribute to our economy then I think we should give you a path to citizenship. Is that amnesty? Sure, why not. Is amnesty a bad thing? I don’t think so provided that it’s limited.

  2. Scott says:

    Does my gravatar work?

  3. casey says:

    You must not know anyone who is trying to come to the country legally, Scott. It is unfair to let people who come illegally pass up those who come legally. When they send 80 or 90 percent of what they earn back to their home country, it’s hard to say they’re contributing, anyway.

    I deleted the cache for your gravatar, so now it shows up.

  4. casey says:

    That’s really beside the point. If you’ve ever tried to bring a family member into the country legally, you’d know that it’s a long and grueling process and that you are subjected to some of the rudest treatment you could imagine. On the other hand, if you’re an unskilled worker you can pretty much stay under the radar. Then, if they grant you amnesty, you’ve passed up all those who are waiting in line legally. You can’t possibly tell me you think that is fair.

  5. Scott says:

    No I don’t. That’s why I think it should be easier for immigrants to come in. Did you listen to the audio and look at the report?

  6. casey says:

    No, I didn’t. I can give you links to reports that show that illegal immigrants place an undo burden on society through violent crime and others that show that they do in fact take jobs from American citizens. It’s going to be really hard to separate opinion from fact. My thoughts on the matter are that we either take an open borders policy or we enforce the borders without prejudice. The situation we have today is simply unfair.

  7. Scott says:

    So which would you prefer? The former is more historically what we’re about as a country. We had open borders far longer than we didn’t. Personally I don’t want to live in a country surrounded by barbed wire and machine gun nests.

  8. Lincoln says:

    I like Rudy but he needs to see our files on criminal offenders. You wouldn’t believe how many are not even here legally, driving around without licenses, selling drugs, committing violent crimes. Our crime rate would drop like a brick if even a fraction of these vermin were deported.

    Mexico loves this because they are exporting the worst elements of their society through our borders so we have to deal with them instead, and if anyone tries to say anything about it we’re immediately accused of being racist. This romanticized notion that everyone who crosses the Southern border are wearing sombreros and carrying guitars really needs to stop.

  9. casey says:

    Which would I prefer? Obviously, I wish we lived in a perfect world and there was no need for borders. Unfortunately we can’t simply let everyone in who wants in. It’s not safe and it’s not economically feasible. So we have to have borders, and if we’re going to have borders they need to be enforced fairly.