Comments on: Do facts matter? http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/do-facts-matter.html A blog about current events from a Christian perspective. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:34:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: casey http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/do-facts-matter.html/comment-page-1#comment-1556 casey Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:10:28 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/?p=342#comment-1556 I can't help but sense something fishy about that (it is the NYT, after all) when McCain was among the ones calling for reform. But the possibility of it backfiring on him would explain why he hasn't been coming out and swinging with that argument. It still doesn't explain how the ones that opposed reform are now the ones seen as best suited to implement reform, though. I can’t help but sense something fishy about that (it is the NYT, after all) when McCain was among the ones calling for reform. But the possibility of it backfiring on him would explain why he hasn’t been coming out and swinging with that argument. It still doesn’t explain how the ones that opposed reform are now the ones seen as best suited to implement reform, though.

]]> By: Kansas Bob http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/do-facts-matter.html/comment-page-1#comment-1554 Kansas Bob Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:52:21 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/?p=342#comment-1554 I think that there is plenty of blame to go around Casey. The New York Times looked at contributions from Fannie and Freddie's boards of directors and lobbyists, who are technically not employees. That analysis found Fannie and Freddie-related contributors gave $169,000 to John McCain and his related committees, compared with $16,000 to Obama and his related committees. So their "employees" may have given more to Obama but their leaders gave more to McCain. I am pretty disgusted with the whole thing.. there are no mavericks in congress.. well maybe Ron Paul is one.. it is just a bunch of political rhetoric. I think that there is plenty of blame to go around Casey. The New York Times looked at contributions from Fannie and Freddie’s boards of directors and lobbyists, who are technically not employees. That analysis found Fannie and Freddie-related contributors gave $169,000 to John McCain and his related committees, compared with $16,000 to Obama and his related committees. So their “employees” may have given more to Obama but their leaders gave more to McCain.

I am pretty disgusted with the whole thing.. there are no mavericks in congress.. well maybe Ron Paul is one.. it is just a bunch of political rhetoric.

]]> By: Ash888 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/do-facts-matter.html/comment-page-1#comment-1552 Ash888 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 02:55:22 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/?p=342#comment-1552 >I just don’t see how Obama is getting a bounce. It must be from a general ignorance of the facts. The average person who doesn't dig deep will obviously blame the president first and foremost. I'm shocked that McCain let Obama get away with slamming Bush and his policies of "deregulation" for the crisis at the debate. McCain either wanted to appear like he's not taking sides, or he knows something we don't know. Either way, his weak response to that charge didn't come across well, and I hope he capitalizes on his push for reform while the Dems were denying anything was wrong with Fannie and Freddie at the next debate. >I just don’t see how Obama is getting a bounce.

It must be from a general ignorance of the facts. The average person who doesn’t dig deep will obviously blame the president first and foremost. I’m shocked that McCain let Obama get away with slamming Bush and his policies of “deregulation” for the crisis at the debate. McCain either wanted to appear like he’s not taking sides, or he knows something we don’t know. Either way, his weak response to that charge didn’t come across well, and I hope he capitalizes on his push for reform while the Dems were denying anything was wrong with Fannie and Freddie at the next debate.

]]> By: casey http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/do-facts-matter.html/comment-page-1#comment-1551 casey Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:57:36 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/?p=342#comment-1551 Bob, you're absolutely right. McCain has handled the situation terribly. He probably could have capitalized on it if he had opposed the bailout and drove home the point that he had been pushing for reforms. I just don't see how Obama is getting a bounce. Obama is the number two recipient of contributions from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, and the Democrats were opposing any attempts to regulate them. How is Obama not being tied to them? CT, I think it's still a bit early to be counting McCain out. I never thought he had a chance in the Republican primaries. He's got some big hurdles, but I don't think the election is over yet. Bob, you’re absolutely right. McCain has handled the situation terribly. He probably could have capitalized on it if he had opposed the bailout and drove home the point that he had been pushing for reforms. I just don’t see how Obama is getting a bounce. Obama is the number two recipient of contributions from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, and the Democrats were opposing any attempts to regulate them. How is Obama not being tied to them?

CT, I think it’s still a bit early to be counting McCain out. I never thought he had a chance in the Republican primaries. He’s got some big hurdles, but I don’t think the election is over yet.

]]> By: CT http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/do-facts-matter.html/comment-page-1#comment-1550 CT Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:41:54 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/?p=342#comment-1550 The election is over, we are now going to have Obama as President. But something very interestig has taken place, that is the rise of Sarah Palin onto the national scene. She is now the standard bearer for the Conservative movement. They Reagan youth are going to need a leader and she is now the grizzled vet. She has adapted, improvised, and overcome. So a lot of McCain's actions may have been reckless, but the Sarah Palin choice was abouve all the one that made this most sense.It was said not to long ago that the Republicans needed to go back into the wilderness to find themselves, well they did and it was Sarah Palin. It just is not her time, she just needed to learn and be known to the American people. Well mission accomplished. The Liberals are going to be facing a new type of Conservative, modern day Burkeans and Palin is now the leader of that movement. Whether she likes it or not. So with that in mind let's get ready for war. The election is over, we are now going to have Obama as President. But something very interestig has taken place, that is the rise of Sarah Palin onto the national scene. She is now the standard bearer for the Conservative movement. They Reagan youth are going to need a leader and she is now the grizzled vet. She has adapted, improvised, and overcome. So a lot of McCain’s actions may have been reckless, but the Sarah Palin choice was abouve all the one that made this most sense.It was said not to long ago that the Republicans needed to go back into the wilderness to find themselves, well they did and it was Sarah Palin. It just is not her time, she just needed to learn and be known to the American people. Well mission accomplished. The Liberals are going to be facing a new type of Conservative, modern day Burkeans and Palin is now the leader of that movement. Whether she likes it or not. So with that in mind let’s get ready for war.

]]> By: Kansas Bob http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/do-facts-matter.html/comment-page-1#comment-1549 Kansas Bob Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:55:07 +0000 http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/?p=342#comment-1549 McCain has no one to blame but himself.. he said and did a few bizarre things during the last few weeks.. saying the fundamentals of the economy was sound then saying he really meant that American workers are sound (guess he had read the unemployment stats).. mouthed off saying the SEC chairman needed to be fired.. grandstanded by suspending his campaign (even though his folks still appeared on TV with the pundits).. put the debate on hold saying he was needed to help in DC.. then flew to MS and debated anyway. He paints himself as a maverick but went along with the crowd (as did Obama)and voted for the bailout. I am not saying that Obama is that much better.. he just came across as a bit cooler under pressure than McCain did. I don't like either one of these guys. I may vote libertarian? McCain has no one to blame but himself.. he said and did a few bizarre things during the last few weeks.. saying the fundamentals of the economy was sound then saying he really meant that American workers are sound (guess he had read the unemployment stats).. mouthed off saying the SEC chairman needed to be fired.. grandstanded by suspending his campaign (even though his folks still appeared on TV with the pundits).. put the debate on hold saying he was needed to help in DC.. then flew to MS and debated anyway.

He paints himself as a maverick but went along with the crowd (as did Obama)and voted for the bailout.

I am not saying that Obama is that much better.. he just came across as a bit cooler under pressure than McCain did.

I don’t like either one of these guys. I may vote libertarian?

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