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		<title>By: casey</title>
		<link>http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/another-thing-that-bothers-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-1363</link>
		<dc:creator>casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright, we&#039;ll have to agree to disagree on that one, then. No hand over his heart during the National Anthem. A wife who says she&#039;s never been proud of her country until now. A pastor who says &quot;God d*** America.&quot; These stories form a pattern. At some point you can&#039;t keep explaining it away. This is a pattern that makes Obama seem weak on national security to me and lacking in powers of discernment. If you don&#039;t see it, I can&#039;t make you. I&#039;d say being a communist shows you&#039;re not fit to offer advice on how to run a democracy, but hey, that&#039;s just me (I&#039;m responding to your comment, by the way, not accusing Obama of being a communist). 

Even if the charges were dropped, Ayers was still part of an organization that did engage in terrorist acts. He may have been found innocent for a particular incident, but he was knowingly part of a terrorist organization. Accepting funds from such an individual and holding campaigns at his house is disgraceful in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, we&#8217;ll have to agree to disagree on that one, then. No hand over his heart during the National Anthem. A wife who says she&#8217;s never been proud of her country until now. A pastor who says &#8220;God d*** America.&#8221; These stories form a pattern. At some point you can&#8217;t keep explaining it away. This is a pattern that makes Obama seem weak on national security to me and lacking in powers of discernment. If you don&#8217;t see it, I can&#8217;t make you. I&#8217;d say being a communist shows you&#8217;re not fit to offer advice on how to run a democracy, but hey, that&#8217;s just me (I&#8217;m responding to your comment, by the way, not accusing Obama of being a communist). </p>
<p>Even if the charges were dropped, Ayers was still part of an organization that did engage in terrorist acts. He may have been found innocent for a particular incident, but he was knowingly part of a terrorist organization. Accepting funds from such an individual and holding campaigns at his house is disgraceful in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/another-thing-that-bothers-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-1361</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the gut he knew in Honolulu he knew while he was a child if I get the time line right.  That&#039;s what I meant about having a mentor that turns out to be something you aren&#039;t proud of.  I don&#039;t think Obama is a communist or is pro-communism.  

Of course there isn&#039;t anything wrong with being a communist.  As a form of government I don&#039;t think it&#039;s the best and it usually ends up hurting the people it purports to help, but being one doesn&#039;t make you evil any more than being pro-democracy makes you inherently good.

Having a campaign fund raiser somewhere doesn&#039;t make you the organizer&#039;s friend.  I&#039;d raise funds for Obama at my house if that would do any good.  Doesn&#039;t make me his friend.      

The charges against Ayers were dropped, which in this country makes you innocent.  Maybe it&#039;s closed minded of me, but I think that politicians should be able to accept funds/fundraisers from anyone who isn&#039;t a convicted criminal.  Heck they should be able to receive funds from a convict and I would imagine they can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the gut he knew in Honolulu he knew while he was a child if I get the time line right.  That&#8217;s what I meant about having a mentor that turns out to be something you aren&#8217;t proud of.  I don&#8217;t think Obama is a communist or is pro-communism.  </p>
<p>Of course there isn&#8217;t anything wrong with being a communist.  As a form of government I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the best and it usually ends up hurting the people it purports to help, but being one doesn&#8217;t make you evil any more than being pro-democracy makes you inherently good.</p>
<p>Having a campaign fund raiser somewhere doesn&#8217;t make you the organizer&#8217;s friend.  I&#8217;d raise funds for Obama at my house if that would do any good.  Doesn&#8217;t make me his friend.      </p>
<p>The charges against Ayers were dropped, which in this country makes you innocent.  Maybe it&#8217;s closed minded of me, but I think that politicians should be able to accept funds/fundraisers from anyone who isn&#8217;t a convicted criminal.  Heck they should be able to receive funds from a convict and I would imagine they can.</p>
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		<title>By: casey</title>
		<link>http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/another-thing-that-bothers-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-1358</link>
		<dc:creator>casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about knowing someone who turned out to be less than stellar. It&#039;s about associating with someone who has already been involved in terrorist activities. Holding a campaign event at someone&#039;s home does not make you friends? Oooookay. Maybe it&#039;s close-minded of me, but I don&#039;t think politicians should hold fundraisers at the homes of terrorists, former or otherwise. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about knowing someone who turned out to be less than stellar. It&#8217;s about associating with someone who has already been involved in terrorist activities. Holding a campaign event at someone&#8217;s home does not make you friends? Oooookay. Maybe it&#8217;s close-minded of me, but I don&#8217;t think politicians should hold fundraisers at the homes of terrorists, former or otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/another-thing-that-bothers-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-1356</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of this:

&quot;Obama minimized his relationship by acknowledging only that he knows Ayers. But they have quite a bit more of a connection than that. He’s appeared on panels with Ayers, served on a foundation board with him and held a 1995 campaign event at the home of Ayers and his wife, fellow former terrorist Bernardine Dohrn. Ayers even gave money to one of his campaigns.&quot;

makes Ayers his friend and just looking at the link on the other matter doesn&#039;t mean much to me.  I&#039;ve had people that I&#039;ve looked up to as a young man turn out to be less than stellar individuals.  Maybe I am drinking the Obama koolaid but I don&#039;t see anything damning there.  Does he have a &quot;questionable past&quot;?  Sure ask all the questions you want, just don&#039;t grasp at straws or strawmen.  I don&#039;t think he&#039;s perfect and like you say in a newer post part of it boils down to voting for the least objectionable candidate.  Not something I enjoy doing, but I gotta vote for someone.

Any comments that I make on someone&#039;s blog isn&#039;t just for the author.  Again if your viewing habits are pretty broad, great.  I was just pointing out that narrow viewing habits (right or left) lead to narrow minds.  

And of course if Obama doesn&#039;t win that doesn&#039;t mean American is racist.  But race does play a part for some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama minimized his relationship by acknowledging only that he knows Ayers. But they have quite a bit more of a connection than that. He’s appeared on panels with Ayers, served on a foundation board with him and held a 1995 campaign event at the home of Ayers and his wife, fellow former terrorist Bernardine Dohrn. Ayers even gave money to one of his campaigns.&#8221;</p>
<p>makes Ayers his friend and just looking at the link on the other matter doesn&#8217;t mean much to me.  I&#8217;ve had people that I&#8217;ve looked up to as a young man turn out to be less than stellar individuals.  Maybe I am drinking the Obama koolaid but I don&#8217;t see anything damning there.  Does he have a &#8220;questionable past&#8221;?  Sure ask all the questions you want, just don&#8217;t grasp at straws or strawmen.  I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s perfect and like you say in a newer post part of it boils down to voting for the least objectionable candidate.  Not something I enjoy doing, but I gotta vote for someone.</p>
<p>Any comments that I make on someone&#8217;s blog isn&#8217;t just for the author.  Again if your viewing habits are pretty broad, great.  I was just pointing out that narrow viewing habits (right or left) lead to narrow minds.  </p>
<p>And of course if Obama doesn&#8217;t win that doesn&#8217;t mean American is racist.  But race does play a part for some.</p>
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		<title>By: casey</title>
		<link>http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/another-thing-that-bothers-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-1346</link>
		<dc:creator>casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Howard, because some of us aren&#039;t too thrilled about voting for the lesser of two evils. A vote for McCain is a vote for pragmatism rather than principle. I think McCain might be slightly better in the short-run, but if electing him means unsatisfactory candidates like him will continue being nominated in the long-run, I&#039;m not so sure it&#039;s that great an idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Howard, because some of us aren&#8217;t too thrilled about voting for the lesser of two evils. A vote for McCain is a vote for pragmatism rather than principle. I think McCain might be slightly better in the short-run, but if electing him means unsatisfactory candidates like him will continue being nominated in the long-run, I&#8217;m not so sure it&#8217;s that great an idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
		<link>http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/another-thing-that-bothers-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-1343</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When is the Republican base going to wake up and put some real support behind John McCain? Sitting back while Obama gains ground is like fiddling while Rome burns. Surely Republicans and corporate America prospered during the last 8 years. Now is the time to allocate some of those resources to help McCain beat Obama. I know some Republicans don&#039;t like McCain, but would you rather see Obama get elected? Republicans ... Don&#039;t bite off your nose to spite your face!
Support John McCain NOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When is the Republican base going to wake up and put some real support behind John McCain? Sitting back while Obama gains ground is like fiddling while Rome burns. Surely Republicans and corporate America prospered during the last 8 years. Now is the time to allocate some of those resources to help McCain beat Obama. I know some Republicans don&#8217;t like McCain, but would you rather see Obama get elected? Republicans &#8230; Don&#8217;t bite off your nose to spite your face!<br />
Support John McCain NOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/another-thing-that-bothers-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-1340</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The links are simply pointing out that Obama has a communist mentor and a close friend who was involved in a domestic terrorist organization. Those things are either true or they&#039;re not. How can they be blown out of proportion? Scott, come on. Are you really that blinded by the glory of Obama that you can&#039;t admit that he&#039;s got a questionable past? 

If you weren&#039;t making any assumptions about me, then why make a comment like &quot;Personally I listen to a pretty broad spectrum of news sources form NPR to local Conservative talk radio and form Fox to well everything else on TV.&quot; Were you just tooting your own horn? 

No, I didn&#039;t see any widespread racism in the south. That&#039;s my experience, and since I haven&#039;t done any scientific surveys, that&#039;s all I can speak about. I never said that racism doesn&#039;t exist. In fact, I specifically stated that it does. I&#039;m just saying that if Obama doesn&#039;t win, it&#039;s not because America is racist. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The links are simply pointing out that Obama has a communist mentor and a close friend who was involved in a domestic terrorist organization. Those things are either true or they&#8217;re not. How can they be blown out of proportion? Scott, come on. Are you really that blinded by the glory of Obama that you can&#8217;t admit that he&#8217;s got a questionable past? </p>
<p>If you weren&#8217;t making any assumptions about me, then why make a comment like &#8220;Personally I listen to a pretty broad spectrum of news sources form NPR to local Conservative talk radio and form Fox to well everything else on TV.&#8221; Were you just tooting your own horn? </p>
<p>No, I didn&#8217;t see any widespread racism in the south. That&#8217;s my experience, and since I haven&#8217;t done any scientific surveys, that&#8217;s all I can speak about. I never said that racism doesn&#8217;t exist. In fact, I specifically stated that it does. I&#8217;m just saying that if Obama doesn&#8217;t win, it&#8217;s not because America is racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/another-thing-that-bothers-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t presuming.  I simply said that when you link to sites like Hot Air it doesn&#039;t lend your post/writing credibility any more than a link to Drudge or Kos does.  The bias at those sites isn&#039;t in question.  If you can&#039;t find those stories elsewhere maybe, just maybe it means that those sites are blowing things out of proportion, using soundbites out of context or otherwise engaging in questionable jouranlistic practices.  

I made no assumption in anything I wrote concerning your browsing habits.  If what I said doesn&#039;t apply to you, cool.  If you&#039;re open minded enough to check out more liberal sites, great.  We both agree that the MSM has a bias I think.  Most blogsites do too. 

If you didn&#039;t see racism, GREAT!  Doesn&#039;t mean that it doesn&#039;t exist.  In my lifetime of experience in various parts of the south I&#039;d say that it does exist, just in a more subtle way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t presuming.  I simply said that when you link to sites like Hot Air it doesn&#8217;t lend your post/writing credibility any more than a link to Drudge or Kos does.  The bias at those sites isn&#8217;t in question.  If you can&#8217;t find those stories elsewhere maybe, just maybe it means that those sites are blowing things out of proportion, using soundbites out of context or otherwise engaging in questionable jouranlistic practices.  </p>
<p>I made no assumption in anything I wrote concerning your browsing habits.  If what I said doesn&#8217;t apply to you, cool.  If you&#8217;re open minded enough to check out more liberal sites, great.  We both agree that the MSM has a bias I think.  Most blogsites do too. </p>
<p>If you didn&#8217;t see racism, GREAT!  Doesn&#8217;t mean that it doesn&#8217;t exist.  In my lifetime of experience in various parts of the south I&#8217;d say that it does exist, just in a more subtle way.</p>
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		<title>By: casey</title>
		<link>http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/another-thing-that-bothers-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-1337</link>
		<dc:creator>casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve lost me, Scott. Are you talking about the two links I posted in my response to Bob, or are you talking about a general trend in my links in general? If you&#039;re just talking about those two links, you&#039;re not making any sense. I already stated that I was unable to find those stories in the mainstream media. It&#039;s awfully presumptive of you to insinuate that I do not frequent mainstream media sites or watch liberal news programming. Are you really trying to lecture me on open-mindedness?

And no, I didn&#039;t see racism as a problem where I lived. Again, I knew people who were racist, but they were a minority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve lost me, Scott. Are you talking about the two links I posted in my response to Bob, or are you talking about a general trend in my links in general? If you&#8217;re just talking about those two links, you&#8217;re not making any sense. I already stated that I was unable to find those stories in the mainstream media. It&#8217;s awfully presumptive of you to insinuate that I do not frequent mainstream media sites or watch liberal news programming. Are you really trying to lecture me on open-mindedness?</p>
<p>And no, I didn&#8217;t see racism as a problem where I lived. Again, I knew people who were racist, but they were a minority.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/another-thing-that-bothers-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-1336</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say you should link to the MSM.  I just don&#039;t think you&#039;re any better off linking to those sites, except for the fact that they seem to mesh pretty well with your politics.  Personally I listen to a pretty broad spectrum of news sources form NPR to local Conservative talk radio and form Fox to well everything else on TV.

It&#039;s been pretty well shown that anyone who gloms on to one source or another is going to draw incorrect conclusions.  Also, you&#039;ll need to define fawning.  If by that you mean not using soundbites to defame a former pastor or not showing spurious links between Obama and and &quot;radicals&quot; who haven&#039;t been radical in thirty years then yeah.  That&#039;s not what fawning means, but okay.  

As I recall when we had a Democrat prez the media was just as hard on him and I expect that now that it&#039;s just down to two we&#039;ll see Obama get his share of licks fair and unfair.  McCain has pretty well skated by too as far as the medai goes.

As for you living in the south are you saying when you live there you didn&#039;t see racism as a problem?  Mind you I&#039;m not just talking about overt racism but about an underlying current and not just against black people, but Mexicans and folks of Middle Eastern extraction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say you should link to the MSM.  I just don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re any better off linking to those sites, except for the fact that they seem to mesh pretty well with your politics.  Personally I listen to a pretty broad spectrum of news sources form NPR to local Conservative talk radio and form Fox to well everything else on TV.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been pretty well shown that anyone who gloms on to one source or another is going to draw incorrect conclusions.  Also, you&#8217;ll need to define fawning.  If by that you mean not using soundbites to defame a former pastor or not showing spurious links between Obama and and &#8220;radicals&#8221; who haven&#8217;t been radical in thirty years then yeah.  That&#8217;s not what fawning means, but okay.  </p>
<p>As I recall when we had a Democrat prez the media was just as hard on him and I expect that now that it&#8217;s just down to two we&#8217;ll see Obama get his share of licks fair and unfair.  McCain has pretty well skated by too as far as the medai goes.</p>
<p>As for you living in the south are you saying when you live there you didn&#8217;t see racism as a problem?  Mind you I&#8217;m not just talking about overt racism but about an underlying current and not just against black people, but Mexicans and folks of Middle Eastern extraction.</p>
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